Just to put my two cents in, I do think there is still room for debate. I have had the opportunity over my life to teach both Quark and InDesign, and for all that don't know, I was also a Quark person in the Pagemaker days. I say this begrudging, but there are some things that Quark can do better than InDesign. In the long run though, productivity and design wise InDesign trumps Quark, and I gladly trade the few sparks of creativity from the Quark people to work for the rest of my design life in InDesign. I feel Quark has really become and very specialized application and cornered itself not to be relevant to the other 99% of designers.